View Poll Results: Which of these RCU sections are important? (SELECT ALL THAT APPLY)
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 253. You may not vote on this poll
POLL: What parts of RCU are important to you?
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11-23-2019, 06:34 PM
#28
I have used the old RCU quite a few times tru the years and I have liked it then all of a sudden you make all these changes then you wind up into another planet looks like, if you wanted to clean up the old one you dint need any improvements you could have done so but always leaving the old notion I never had any problem with the old one to begin with and I have bought and sold lots of stuff look on the number one think RCU has lost all most 3/4 of their posts just because every one like me as seen that the new one does not work well number one there is no necessity to keep all expired posts on the web site to much cloning without having a repost button and just keep one of it there number two there is lack of messaging I have lots of problem communicating with prospected buyers because I dint get any messages and you can see on the records talking about this particular subject, number three the site was not divided into proper subject selection like it was the old one ecc.ecc. Man bring back the old one John had a fantastic think going on for ove 17 years why change it look at the big web sites they never changed any think since day one except polishing rules and regulations but that’s it, thank you for listening!
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jnayjaso (04-05-2020)
11-23-2019, 07:19 PM
#29
My Feedback: (103)
I name the one that was original imitated by RCU and that is EBAY Dude only in RC format only with the additions Forums and so fourth and Except the rules the format is still the same dint change a bit’ I don’t know what’s going on with this attitude like it or don’t like it admin ask for suggestions and we gave them I think it became a circus with all these stupid answers this is a joke!
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11-26-2019, 02:37 PM
#31
Obviously there's many problems. I contend more then they can disclose in any thread. I haven't looked at this site in probably over 3 months, and probably all total just a few times in the last few years. So I'm going with "none of the above". I registered with this site probably a week or two after it was launched in 2001, and was a moderator for a few years or more. It really rocked, I remember when it hit 100,000 users. It was a party, with new users registering every day, and using it frequently. Sponsors were flocking to it, advertisers couldn't sign up fast enough...
Every change since about 2006-2008 has it slipping down a slope though from what I can tell. At some point it was taken over by an entity that really made it tough to use. It seems like it's just treaded water for the last 10yrs.
The Market Place is ridiculous and hard to use, there's no origin dates on any threads so you can't see when anything was originally posted without hitting on it, and the list goes on. I'm not wanting to bash here, but these are just a few of the issues I as a user have to deal with.
I certainly wish it could remain and evolve to a better site, but now today I finally log in, and there's a prompt to vote on what we think is "more important". Those kind of polls create more division then anything else you could do. I cringe when I see/hear those kind of polls. I've seen those things split clubs, churches, and organizations right down the middle, and nothing gets resolved...
How about this... You guys think about it, come up with a site plan, and if I/we like it, we'll be back. Get rid of the politics of what your users think, and be creative, do your jobs, make it work, make changes where needed, and if it doesn't work, you do it again.
If you can't keep up with it, maybe you're in the wrong business. Know though there's almost 19yrs of history(not to mention this site apparently took on the older RCOnline at some point early on also if I'm not mistaken).
The most important thing you can do is come up with something that works and appeals to your users. Don't ask users what they think, do your job and get creative. Entice us, make users(like me) want to read your site. I don't want to see 19yrs of information go up in smoke, but it's inevitable if you guys don't get with it.
Every change since about 2006-2008 has it slipping down a slope though from what I can tell. At some point it was taken over by an entity that really made it tough to use. It seems like it's just treaded water for the last 10yrs.
The Market Place is ridiculous and hard to use, there's no origin dates on any threads so you can't see when anything was originally posted without hitting on it, and the list goes on. I'm not wanting to bash here, but these are just a few of the issues I as a user have to deal with.
I certainly wish it could remain and evolve to a better site, but now today I finally log in, and there's a prompt to vote on what we think is "more important". Those kind of polls create more division then anything else you could do. I cringe when I see/hear those kind of polls. I've seen those things split clubs, churches, and organizations right down the middle, and nothing gets resolved...
How about this... You guys think about it, come up with a site plan, and if I/we like it, we'll be back. Get rid of the politics of what your users think, and be creative, do your jobs, make it work, make changes where needed, and if it doesn't work, you do it again.
If you can't keep up with it, maybe you're in the wrong business. Know though there's almost 19yrs of history(not to mention this site apparently took on the older RCOnline at some point early on also if I'm not mistaken).
The most important thing you can do is come up with something that works and appeals to your users. Don't ask users what they think, do your job and get creative. Entice us, make users(like me) want to read your site. I don't want to see 19yrs of information go up in smoke, but it's inevitable if you guys don't get with it.
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11-26-2019, 04:41 PM
#32
I name the one that was original imitated by RCU and that is EBAY Dude only in RC format only with the additions Forums and so fourth and Except the rules the format is still the same dint change a bit’ I don’t know what’s going on with this attitude like it or don’t like it admin ask for suggestions and we gave them I think it became a circus with all these stupid answers this is a joke!
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jnayjaso (04-05-2020)
11-27-2019, 12:21 PM
#33
Obviously there's many problems. I contend more then they can disclose in any thread. I haven't looked at this site in probably over 3 months, and probably all total just a few times in the last few years. So I'm going with "none of the above". I registered with this site probably a week or two after it was launched in 2001, and was a moderator for a few years or more. It really rocked, I remember when it hit 100,000 users. It was a party, with new users registering every day, and using it frequently. Sponsors were flocking to it, advertisers couldn't sign up fast enough...
Every change since about 2006-2008 has it slipping down a slope though from what I can tell. At some point it was taken over by an entity that really made it tough to use. It seems like it's just treaded water for the last 10yrs.
The Market Place is ridiculous and hard to use, there's no origin dates on any threads so you can't see when anything was originally posted without hitting on it, and the list goes on. I'm not wanting to bash here, but these are just a few of the issues I as a user have to deal with.
I certainly wish it could remain and evolve to a better site, but now today I finally log in, and there's a prompt to vote on what we think is "more important". Those kind of polls create more division then anything else you could do. I cringe when I see/hear those kind of polls. I've seen those things split clubs, churches, and organizations right down the middle, and nothing gets resolved...
How about this... You guys think about it, come up with a site plan, and if I/we like it, we'll be back. Get rid of the politics of what your users think, and be creative, do your jobs, make it work, make changes where needed, and if it doesn't work, you do it again.
If you can't keep up with it, maybe you're in the wrong business. Know though there's almost 19yrs of history(not to mention this site apparently took on the older RCOnline at some point early on also if I'm not mistaken).
The most important thing you can do is come up with something that works and appeals to your users. Don't ask users what they think, do your job and get creative. Entice us, make users(like me) want to read your site. I don't want to see 19yrs of information go up in smoke, but it's inevitable if you guys don't get with it.
Every change since about 2006-2008 has it slipping down a slope though from what I can tell. At some point it was taken over by an entity that really made it tough to use. It seems like it's just treaded water for the last 10yrs.
The Market Place is ridiculous and hard to use, there's no origin dates on any threads so you can't see when anything was originally posted without hitting on it, and the list goes on. I'm not wanting to bash here, but these are just a few of the issues I as a user have to deal with.
I certainly wish it could remain and evolve to a better site, but now today I finally log in, and there's a prompt to vote on what we think is "more important". Those kind of polls create more division then anything else you could do. I cringe when I see/hear those kind of polls. I've seen those things split clubs, churches, and organizations right down the middle, and nothing gets resolved...
How about this... You guys think about it, come up with a site plan, and if I/we like it, we'll be back. Get rid of the politics of what your users think, and be creative, do your jobs, make it work, make changes where needed, and if it doesn't work, you do it again.
If you can't keep up with it, maybe you're in the wrong business. Know though there's almost 19yrs of history(not to mention this site apparently took on the older RCOnline at some point early on also if I'm not mistaken).
The most important thing you can do is come up with something that works and appeals to your users. Don't ask users what they think, do your job and get creative. Entice us, make users(like me) want to read your site. I don't want to see 19yrs of information go up in smoke, but it's inevitable if you guys don't get with it.
I can't speak to changes as far back as 2006-2008. Way before my time, and even before IB bought the site. But I can speak, again, to the reasons for some of the changes we have made, including the marketplace.
The current RCU Marketplace is the best RC classifieds marketplace on the Internet. I know this because I've looked at the other guys, and all they are is a bunch of forum threads. They split off a subforum, called it a marketplace, and walked away. Our marketplace is a separate product, within the forum software, with features specifically for RC sales. I do get that we lost some features when we moved from the old RCU marketplace to the new one; but at this point, we are not comparing old RCU to new RCU -- we are comparing RCU to everyone else. And we're the most feature-rich, RC-specific marketplace around, period.
Now, let's talk about why we changed from the old RCU marketplace to the new. It's the same reason we are running this current poll: the site we purchased 10-ish years ago was custom-coded in Coldfusion, and is not as compliant with modern security standards, nor is it upgradeable. It's got to be rewritten from the ground up. So we did that with the forums. Then we did it with the most important part of RCU (outside of the forums) -- the marketplace. Now, we are running this poll to determine what parts to work on next... and to some extent, what parts we can just let go.
As such, we don't see asking our members to help us determine our technical priorities as a "political" act. We see it as necessity. We only have so many resources, and rather than spend them rebuilding something nobody actually cares about, we want to spend them on things that matter to this community.
Forums are hard. This isn't 2011 anymore, and people have other ways of getting their RC info. But we are sticking with this, and dedicating ourselves to making RCU the best RC site on the Internet, just as we have with the Marketplace. If you'd like to consider returning as a mod and helping directly with that, please talk to Ken. If not, I hope you'll consider continuing to give feedback -- believe it or not, nobody ever suggested that including in the search results page the original post date of a Marketplace listing was even desired until your note here. We could do that. We can do other things too; but not if they don't occur to us, and not if nobody says, "hey -- this would be cool."
Yes, this is a challenge. Stay with us for the ride.
-Paul
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jnayjaso (04-05-2020)
11-29-2019, 06:41 AM
#35
timbro21
The new site has no confidential section to share information with the buyer or seller. Every reply seems to be posted to the public as would all negotiating by the buyer or seller. That will not work.
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11-30-2019, 09:35 AM
#36
If you have to start from scratch, you should have anticipated the issues and written the correct code. I have purchased one item in the last year and it was a hassle.
The market place attracted me to the site, which in turn attracted me to the forums, which had me look at the adds of your sponsors.. Now, I don't look at the adds or read the forums because I come on the site once per month to look at what's new and leave. A site is a total experience not just buying items. When one of the legs are gone, the rest suffers.
We all understand change and the need for it. I understand that your code was obsolete and believe you. What I don't understand is trying to make your customers get force fed these new changes. If I did that with my customers I wouldn't have any.
Most all of the members liked the old market place. If that is so, copy the old marketplace and write it in new code. If it is too expensive, then you should consider selling the site to a better financially heeled crowd.
The old tenant of business is you don't screw your old customers in the hope of getting new ones. Few business that try to rebrand to a different demographic succeed. I wish you all the best.
Respectfully
ChemE,
The market place attracted me to the site, which in turn attracted me to the forums, which had me look at the adds of your sponsors.. Now, I don't look at the adds or read the forums because I come on the site once per month to look at what's new and leave. A site is a total experience not just buying items. When one of the legs are gone, the rest suffers.
We all understand change and the need for it. I understand that your code was obsolete and believe you. What I don't understand is trying to make your customers get force fed these new changes. If I did that with my customers I wouldn't have any.
Most all of the members liked the old market place. If that is so, copy the old marketplace and write it in new code. If it is too expensive, then you should consider selling the site to a better financially heeled crowd.
The old tenant of business is you don't screw your old customers in the hope of getting new ones. Few business that try to rebrand to a different demographic succeed. I wish you all the best.
Respectfully
ChemE,
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jnayjaso (04-05-2020)
12-02-2019, 08:50 AM
#39
The OLD RCU was great, it was easy to use, easier to buy stuff, easier in almost every way, with quick responses to questions and offers, I for one used to be a regular buyer & seller on the OLD RCU but now I rarely buy on the NEW RCU FORMAT because it just isn't easy to use anymore, I for one would absolutely love it if you went back to the OLD RCU!!! Jimmy
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jnayjaso (04-05-2020)
12-02-2019, 11:01 AM
#40
Make no mistake there doesn't need to be so many problems as occur here when they make changes. I think its just plane lazy on their part. Most of the other forums I belong to when they make changes will put up a beta version of the new site for you to try. If things don't work you can still revert to the old site and post your issues. They address those issues and when everything is worked out the beta site becomes the new site and the old ceases to exist. Kind of simple when you consider your members are like your customers eh!!!!!!
Dennis
Dennis
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jnayjaso (04-05-2020)
12-02-2019, 02:09 PM
#41
I have purchased one item in the last year and it was a hassle.
Most all of the members liked the old market place. If that is so, copy the old marketplace and write it in new code. If it is too expensive, then you should consider selling the site to a better financially heeled crowd.
Most all of the members liked the old market place. If that is so, copy the old marketplace and write it in new code. If it is too expensive, then you should consider selling the site to a better financially heeled crowd.
As to rewriting the entire site with new code, had we unlimited resources, we'd have done that. But we do not, so we must make do with off-the-shelf products that we can modify. Sorry about that.
What issues are you having posting items for sale?
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jnayjaso (04-05-2020)
12-09-2019, 01:38 PM
#42
Thanks for your response IBob. I will continue reading this site from time to time. I hope the best for you and the site. It seems you're trying, and it's no doubt not an easy job making decisions and changes.
I'm not particularly fond of the market place myself, it's been years I've done any deals there. Maybe it's changed from the last time I've used it, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what's wrong with a message board style market place though... I've grown fond of them and the ease of use. Everything is the same, whether it's discussion or listing... with a few differences to use each type as they're supposed to be. I'm not any internet guru though, just a long time end user that's somewhat set in my ways.
As for being a moderator, thanks for that info, and if a time comes that I might start reading and attending this site more frequently, I'd consider it. At this point though I don't use it enough, and really the current mods seem to do a very decent job of keeping it clean and keeping everyone happy. I think you've got a good moderator team.
You need more users posting every day though... that I do see. There's forums and threads that have been stagnant for weeks and more with no activity. I'm sure that's part of what you're working on in changing the site up to hopefully entice new (and old) users back to being active as they once were. Again thanks for your response.
I'm not particularly fond of the market place myself, it's been years I've done any deals there. Maybe it's changed from the last time I've used it, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what's wrong with a message board style market place though... I've grown fond of them and the ease of use. Everything is the same, whether it's discussion or listing... with a few differences to use each type as they're supposed to be. I'm not any internet guru though, just a long time end user that's somewhat set in my ways.
As for being a moderator, thanks for that info, and if a time comes that I might start reading and attending this site more frequently, I'd consider it. At this point though I don't use it enough, and really the current mods seem to do a very decent job of keeping it clean and keeping everyone happy. I think you've got a good moderator team.
You need more users posting every day though... that I do see. There's forums and threads that have been stagnant for weeks and more with no activity. I'm sure that's part of what you're working on in changing the site up to hopefully entice new (and old) users back to being active as they once were. Again thanks for your response.
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jnayjaso (04-05-2020)
02-02-2020, 10:50 AM
#43
I used to (10+ years ago) spend much time at RCU. It seemed that RCU had a more mature, model builder type membership, and the other Group was younger and playing with foam. I also spent much time in the ratings and reviews section of products. They used to stay very current, then seemed to become dated with no new products being added. I added many of my own reviews, and am sad to see all that has disappeared. All I see now is star ratings with no reviews, and the interface is very poor.
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03-09-2020, 11:15 PM
#45
My 2 cents
The “old RCU” worked, the present RCU doesn’t!!! You all have had enough of us “old guys” say this, my question to you is “why not return to what worked and wasn’t broken”???
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jnayjaso (04-05-2020)
03-31-2020, 10:45 AM
#46
The old marketplace no longer exists. Code is gone. Closed forever. While we still have a couple of improvements to get to, this one is so much better. Please try it!
06-28-2021, 12:07 PM
#47
My Feedback: (93)
That's our #1 work item. We have to change the core software to do it and it affects hundreds of sites so it will take some time.
The old marketplace no longer exists. Code is gone. Closed forever. While we still have a couple of improvements to get to, this one is so much better. Please try it!
The old marketplace no longer exists. Code is gone. Closed forever. While we still have a couple of improvements to get to, this one is so much better. Please try it!
06-28-2021, 07:38 PM
#50
That's our #1 work item. We have to change the core software to do it and it affects hundreds of sites so it will take some time.
The old marketplace no longer exists. Code is gone. Closed forever. While we still have a couple of improvements to get to, this one is so much better. Please try it!
The old marketplace no longer exists. Code is gone. Closed forever. While we still have a couple of improvements to get to, this one is so much better. Please try it!
even with the "improvements" it still is not as good as the old market place was, and it will NEVER be even close to what we had before.
and, yes, i have tried it.