Big RC Grumman A 6 Intruder
#4
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I watched the Video.
I have 1300 hours+ in the Intruder and 2200+ in the Prowler which is a similar platform.
The burner Rings are not scale as the Pratt & WhitneyJ-52 is a Non-Afterburning turbo jet engine. There are some outline issues but good effort and i guess it has the engine in the centerline and exhaust from the bottom on centerline.
The Video Quality is quite good and the flybys with the hillside in the background is quite realistic as we liked to get down in the dirt to play using terrain masking to surprise the enemy of our whereabouts.
My guess it has a gyro as the models with out a gyro (as in before models had gyros at all) have a little yaw wiggle and this one did to but much less than on others. The full size has a yaw damper to control that too!
Unlike the USAF our airplane isnt hands off on the autopilot its all had flown day or night.
Typical daytime low level flying was 200' 360 knots but I have been at 100' and 500 knots, not much sightseeing happens when you are doing that!
Night was typically 1000' and as low as 500' using the terrain following radar with steering cues given to the pilot on his heads down display.
This is all before the use of NVG came into fashion but I understand you fly as low as daytime.
Its a pity he used USMC markings. I would take one if offered but the nose is off so I would need to fix that.
Sparky
Sparky
I have 1300 hours+ in the Intruder and 2200+ in the Prowler which is a similar platform.
The burner Rings are not scale as the Pratt & WhitneyJ-52 is a Non-Afterburning turbo jet engine. There are some outline issues but good effort and i guess it has the engine in the centerline and exhaust from the bottom on centerline.
The Video Quality is quite good and the flybys with the hillside in the background is quite realistic as we liked to get down in the dirt to play using terrain masking to surprise the enemy of our whereabouts.
My guess it has a gyro as the models with out a gyro (as in before models had gyros at all) have a little yaw wiggle and this one did to but much less than on others. The full size has a yaw damper to control that too!
Unlike the USAF our airplane isnt hands off on the autopilot its all had flown day or night.
Typical daytime low level flying was 200' 360 knots but I have been at 100' and 500 knots, not much sightseeing happens when you are doing that!
Night was typically 1000' and as low as 500' using the terrain following radar with steering cues given to the pilot on his heads down display.
This is all before the use of NVG came into fashion but I understand you fly as low as daytime.
Its a pity he used USMC markings. I would take one if offered but the nose is off so I would need to fix that.
Sparky
Sparky
#7
My Feedback: (34)
Nose is off, main landing gear is the correct length if there is no weight on it, but sitting on the ground it's WAY too tall. Canopy also looks too tall, but I'm not sure on that.. The DCU A-6 would make an incredible turbine design today. Mark built them VERY accurately for the movie, and I think Larry Jolly flew them.
Last edited by Doug Cronkhite; 10-04-2017 at 08:15 AM.
#8
My Feedback: (24)
Nose is off, main landing gear is the correct length if there is no weight on it, but sitting on the ground it's WAY too tall. Canopy also looks too tall, but I'm not sure on that.. The DCU A-6 would make an incredible turbine design today. Mark built them VERY accurately for the movie, and I think Larry Jolly flew them.
Bob
#11
Nice find - I found some build pics here...
Construction de l'intruder Les construction de nos membres
Now I have even more ideas for when I start my old DCU A-6 kit - eventually...
Looks like his gear is Matrix Machine - which I have been searching for a set myself if anyone has it?
Construction de l'intruder Les construction de nos membres
Now I have even more ideas for when I start my old DCU A-6 kit - eventually...
Looks like his gear is Matrix Machine - which I have been searching for a set myself if anyone has it?
Last edited by sc0tt; 10-04-2017 at 02:03 PM.
#12
Too bad the A-6 has not been manufactured by one of the current kit companies using modern day lightweight construction. Would really like to have one of these one day. I wonder what ever happened to the molds Mibo had
#13
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I have discussed the Intruder with Bob Violet for at least 30 years he isn't interested...
The "flying drumstick" will have to wait until someone else manufactures it.
I spent quite a bit of time with Mark in the 80's filming the landing gear retract sequence when we had the A-6 up on jacks and the gear was being swung.
All three landing gear are shrunk down on the struts so the the landing gear is as short as possible before it gets tucked into the wheel well. In the end Mark concluded that the gear was just too difficult to replicate and the weight was an issue too so he went without any landing gear for the movie planes and they were launched off the back of a pickup truck the belly landed after they were done. The very first DCU A-6s were flown as a slope soaring glider to validate the controls throws and CG.
Sparky
The "flying drumstick" will have to wait until someone else manufactures it.
I spent quite a bit of time with Mark in the 80's filming the landing gear retract sequence when we had the A-6 up on jacks and the gear was being swung.
All three landing gear are shrunk down on the struts so the the landing gear is as short as possible before it gets tucked into the wheel well. In the end Mark concluded that the gear was just too difficult to replicate and the weight was an issue too so he went without any landing gear for the movie planes and they were launched off the back of a pickup truck the belly landed after they were done. The very first DCU A-6s were flown as a slope soaring glider to validate the controls throws and CG.
Sparky
#20
A6A-A6E-A6Ff-EA6A-KA6D Kits Coming In 2021
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Ruiz,
Yes, we will begin selling these in 2021. 120" w/s x 119" length three piece fuselage. Designed for twin JetFan or Schubeler
EDF though appropriate size turbines could be used.
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Though we increased scale fidelity (Increased length and shape of the nose, added flaps, slats, spoilers, decelerons, bearing
supported flying stab, functional tailhook, leading edge slats, rudder, and scale cockpit details) it weighs 30% less than 1:5.5
scale models flown in the "Flight Of The Intruder" movie.
A website was created to show each A6 version with optional features unique to each. As these roll out the site will go live.
Two years have been invested to create a true scale Grumman A6...or as is always the case...as scale as can be made this
side of a factory CNC,,, The easy part is done...now the heavy lifting begins. Will post more when there is more...
Ruiz,
Yes, we will begin selling these in 2021. 120" w/s x 119" length three piece fuselage. Designed for twin JetFan or Schubeler
EDF though appropriate size turbines could be used.
.
Though we increased scale fidelity (Increased length and shape of the nose, added flaps, slats, spoilers, decelerons, bearing
supported flying stab, functional tailhook, leading edge slats, rudder, and scale cockpit details) it weighs 30% less than 1:5.5
scale models flown in the "Flight Of The Intruder" movie.
A website was created to show each A6 version with optional features unique to each. As these roll out the site will go live.
Two years have been invested to create a true scale Grumman A6...or as is always the case...as scale as can be made this
side of a factory CNC,,, The easy part is done...now the heavy lifting begins. Will post more when there is more...
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#24
Just A Thought About Aspirations Of Newbees :)
Those aspiring turbine pilots. No different than someone throwing a balsa profile jet hand or rubber launched glider.
This hobby draws newbees as they envision flying their favorite warbird or whatever.
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However, they realize they must begin with a trainer, or at the most a J-3 Cub or looks kinda sorta like a whatever
they see in their mind's eye as a pathway to their scale whatever. This is no different than marker and landing lights.
In their game plan flying a turbine is the ultimate goal.
With respect to scale modeling, I see this as a positive effort to learn how-2 and grow involvement to replicate a 1:1
Its little steps that make the effort grow to flying scale models.
By the way, it is amazing how those $1 balsa gliders now cost $7 and more... Now there's a concern... ;^)
This hobby draws newbees as they envision flying their favorite warbird or whatever.
.....................
However, they realize they must begin with a trainer, or at the most a J-3 Cub or looks kinda sorta like a whatever
they see in their mind's eye as a pathway to their scale whatever. This is no different than marker and landing lights.
In their game plan flying a turbine is the ultimate goal.
With respect to scale modeling, I see this as a positive effort to learn how-2 and grow involvement to replicate a 1:1
Its little steps that make the effort grow to flying scale models.
By the way, it is amazing how those $1 balsa gliders now cost $7 and more... Now there's a concern... ;^)
Last edited by Flite-Metal; 11-17-2020 at 03:15 AM.