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Thanks w8ye, what do you normally use when you will not run your plane for like a month?
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After run oil usually does not run very well in an engine
After run oil usually does not run very well in an engine
The best thing to do is to use plenty of ARO, as you have, but, before starting the engine for the first time of the day, pull the glow plug, cover the glow plug hole with a rag or bunch of paper towels and then bump the engine over a few times with the electric starter, clearing the engine of ARO. Reinstall the glow plug and you're good to go. This also will let your glow plugs last quite a bit longer by not beating them to death with too much ARO.
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Saito engines rock. I am starting a project with a P-82. I have two brand new saito 56's for power and can't wait to see them( and hear them) in action. I own 2 56, 1 72, 1 91, and 1 115. I like Saito engines because you fuel em up and they run till theyre out of gas. ( and they sound and perform great) Anyone with tips on my p-82 and how to make sure my 56's run their best together please feel free to help out this beginner. Thanks.
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The best thing to do is to use plenty of ARO, as you have, but, before starting the engine for the first time of the day, pull the glow plug, cover the glow plug hole with a rag or bunch of paper towels and then bump the engine over a few times with the electric starter, clearing the engine of ARO. Reinstall the glow plug and you're good to go. This also will let your glow plugs last quite a bit longer by not beating them to death with too much ARO.
Ed Cregger
The best thing to do is to use plenty of ARO, as you have, but, before starting the engine for the first time of the day, pull the glow plug, cover the glow plug hole with a rag or bunch of paper towels and then bump the engine over a few times with the electric starter, clearing the engine of ARO. Reinstall the glow plug and you're good to go. This also will let your glow plugs last quite a bit longer by not beating them to death with too much ARO.
Ed Cregger
Thanks Ed I'll try that
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W8ye,
I just wanted to tell you guys i got my gk.65 rebuilt.
A new crank,cam,both bearings,ring. It was a little over 100.00 but i feel it was worth it ,
she fired rite up! Man these engines are great!The timing trick from the last one sure made
this one go smoothe.Thanks for the help again. Thought everyone would like to hear my
latest project, I got a E-Flite J-3 25e and have modified it for a gk.30 this has turned out
to be a beutiful set up. This plane will also be on floats after some flights with wheels. I
cant wait!! The weather down here is going to be in the 70's this weekend cant wait to fly.
Happy Flying,
Ty[8D]
I just wanted to tell you guys i got my gk.65 rebuilt.
A new crank,cam,both bearings,ring. It was a little over 100.00 but i feel it was worth it ,
she fired rite up! Man these engines are great!The timing trick from the last one sure made
this one go smoothe.Thanks for the help again. Thought everyone would like to hear my
latest project, I got a E-Flite J-3 25e and have modified it for a gk.30 this has turned out
to be a beutiful set up. This plane will also be on floats after some flights with wheels. I
cant wait!! The weather down here is going to be in the 70's this weekend cant wait to fly.
Happy Flying,
Ty[8D]
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Thanks Ed I'll try that
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The best thing to do is to use plenty of ARO, as you have, but, before starting the engine for the first time of the day, pull the glow plug, cover the glow plug hole with a rag or bunch of paper towels and then bump the engine over a few times with the electric starter, clearing the engine of ARO. Reinstall the glow plug and you're good to go. This also will let your glow plugs last quite a bit longer by not beating them to death with too much ARO.
Ed Cregger
The best thing to do is to use plenty of ARO, as you have, but, before starting the engine for the first time of the day, pull the glow plug, cover the glow plug hole with a rag or bunch of paper towels and then bump the engine over a few times with the electric starter, clearing the engine of ARO. Reinstall the glow plug and you're good to go. This also will let your glow plugs last quite a bit longer by not beating them to death with too much ARO.
Ed Cregger
Thanks Ed I'll try that
Filling the cylinder and pouring ARO into the carb does nothing for a 4 cycle engine. You want the ARO in the lower end where all the steel parts are. IE, the bearings and crankshaft. You must squirt the ARO into the breather if you want oil in the lower end.
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http://www.corrosionx.com/
This is what I've been using since 1992, it is a Super Lube as well as a protectant, when injected through the vent it expands into a foam everywhere inside the engine including the cam area on the rear vented ones. I have opened engines up that have been stored 10 years and longer, the CX looks exactly like the day it was injected. It will not let castor congeal and will dissolve hardened into a harmless liquid. A little of it usually comes out through the front bearing having no effect on its seal.
This is what I've been using since 1992, it is a Super Lube as well as a protectant, when injected through the vent it expands into a foam everywhere inside the engine including the cam area on the rear vented ones. I have opened engines up that have been stored 10 years and longer, the CX looks exactly like the day it was injected. It will not let castor congeal and will dissolve hardened into a harmless liquid. A little of it usually comes out through the front bearing having no effect on its seal.
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http://www.corrosionx.com/
This is what I've been using since 1992, it is a Super Lube as well as a protectant, when injected through the vent it expands into a foam everywhere inside the engine including the cam area on the rear vented ones. I have opened engines up that have been stored 10 years and longer, the CX looks exactly like the day it was injected. It will not let castor congeal and will dissolve hardened into a harmless liquid. A little of it usually comes out through the front bearing having no effect on its seal.
http://www.corrosionx.com/
This is what I've been using since 1992, it is a Super Lube as well as a protectant, when injected through the vent it expands into a foam everywhere inside the engine including the cam area on the rear vented ones. I have opened engines up that have been stored 10 years and longer, the CX looks exactly like the day it was injected. It will not let castor congeal and will dissolve hardened into a harmless liquid. A little of it usually comes out through the front bearing having no effect on its seal.
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Hi Dave,
I hope you are feeling better. I came down with it just after we spoke on the phone. Is it possible??? By the way, I am having a sale this month if you need anything.
Corrosion X is good stuff!
Jim
I hope you are feeling better. I came down with it just after we spoke on the phone. Is it possible??? By the way, I am having a sale this month if you need anything.
Corrosion X is good stuff!
Jim
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Hey Guys, I need some help. I have many Saitos and have had real good luck with 'em. However, today I had a perplexing problem..
My Fa-100 mounted upright on a Yak began making a funny noise! Removed the back cover & the bottom of the connecting rod is rubbing on the crankcase bottom!!!
The con rod bushing is tight.. The crankshaft brgs are smooth, no slack.
Wonder what happened?
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My Fa-100 mounted upright on a Yak began making a funny noise! Removed the back cover & the bottom of the connecting rod is rubbing on the crankcase bottom!!!
The con rod bushing is tight.. The crankshaft brgs are smooth, no slack.
Wonder what happened?
Any and all help will be appreciated..
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Mike, I used to get it from Sheldons in California but they got bought out and are pretty much a an RC car place now, the last two cans I got from the website above. Same price as from Sheldon's.
The seals can't hold that much pressure which is much greater than crankcase pressure.
Thanks Jim, I'll be in touch.
The seals can't hold that much pressure which is much greater than crankcase pressure.
Thanks Jim, I'll be in touch.
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Filling the cylinder and pouring ARO into the carb does nothing for a 4 cycle engine. You want the ARO in the lower end where all the steel parts are. IE, the bearings and crankshaft. You must squirt the ARO into the breather if you want oil in the lower end.
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Thanks Ed I'll try that
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The best thing to do is to use plenty of ARO, as you have, but, before starting the engine for the first time of the day, pull the glow plug, cover the glow plug hole with a rag or bunch of paper towels and then bump the engine over a few times with the electric starter, clearing the engine of ARO. Reinstall the glow plug and you're good to go. This also will let your glow plugs last quite a bit longer by not beating them to death with too much ARO.
Ed Cregger
The best thing to do is to use plenty of ARO, as you have, but, before starting the engine for the first time of the day, pull the glow plug, cover the glow plug hole with a rag or bunch of paper towels and then bump the engine over a few times with the electric starter, clearing the engine of ARO. Reinstall the glow plug and you're good to go. This also will let your glow plugs last quite a bit longer by not beating them to death with too much ARO.
Ed Cregger
Thanks Ed I'll try that
Filling the cylinder and pouring ARO into the carb does nothing for a 4 cycle engine. You want the ARO in the lower end where all the steel parts are. IE, the bearings and crankshaft. You must squirt the ARO into the breather if you want oil in the lower end.
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Farther more you want this ARO to somewhat flush the crankcase of the oil that was in the crankcase from running the engine
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G'day Saito lovers.
I have a range of Saito Singles from 30 to 120 and one 90R3 but I have no experience with the twins. I would like to get a twin to put in something like a Goldberg Cub. There seem to be two series of twins - the older (I am guessing) ones with two valve covers and the later ones like the 60T and the 90T with one cover.
I heard years ago that some of the older twins were not all that great with respect to their carbys. Also, some have the pistons moving in the same direction and others in opposed directions which I guess would be smoother.
Any comments? There is a 100T on a certain auction site at the moment and a shop near me has a discount on the 60T and the 90T.
Thanks Mike in Oz
I have a range of Saito Singles from 30 to 120 and one 90R3 but I have no experience with the twins. I would like to get a twin to put in something like a Goldberg Cub. There seem to be two series of twins - the older (I am guessing) ones with two valve covers and the later ones like the 60T and the 90T with one cover.
I heard years ago that some of the older twins were not all that great with respect to their carbys. Also, some have the pistons moving in the same direction and others in opposed directions which I guess would be smoother.
Any comments? There is a 100T on a certain auction site at the moment and a shop near me has a discount on the 60T and the 90T.
Thanks Mike in Oz
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There are the 60T and 90TS that look pretty much alike except the 90TS has black fins and the pistons move in opposite directions they have single carbs. these were the engines intended for the 40 size Cubs. They look like a Continental real airplane engine
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=SAIE060T 11-6 prop
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...odID=SAIE090TS 14-6 prop
Then there is the old 90T and the newer 100T that the pistons move in the same direction and they have a double carburetor on them. These engines make a little more power as they have two carbs and fewer moving parts
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=SAIE100T 14-6 prop
There is a 182TDP twin that has a double carb and is made up much like the 90T and 100T engines. There was an earlier 132T but the carb was made a little different. The pistons move in the same direction and the cylinders have dual glow plugs
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...odID=SAIE182TD 15-8 prop
Then there are two 300 twins that the pistons move in opposite directions but the engines look like the 100T engine. There's one with a single carb and another with two separate carbs that is a real hotrod with dual glow plugs. There was an older 240 that was made up much like these. Note: I've been corrected that it was a 270?
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...odID=SAIE300TL 18-10 prop
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ID=SAIE300TTDP
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=SAIE060T 11-6 prop
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...odID=SAIE090TS 14-6 prop
Then there is the old 90T and the newer 100T that the pistons move in the same direction and they have a double carburetor on them. These engines make a little more power as they have two carbs and fewer moving parts
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=SAIE100T 14-6 prop
There is a 182TDP twin that has a double carb and is made up much like the 90T and 100T engines. There was an earlier 132T but the carb was made a little different. The pistons move in the same direction and the cylinders have dual glow plugs
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...odID=SAIE182TD 15-8 prop
Then there are two 300 twins that the pistons move in opposite directions but the engines look like the 100T engine. There's one with a single carb and another with two separate carbs that is a real hotrod with dual glow plugs. There was an older 240 that was made up much like these. Note: I've been corrected that it was a 270?
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...odID=SAIE300TL 18-10 prop
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ID=SAIE300TTDP
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(Quote) Dave you half baked bikie as we say down here. Can you get up on a freezing morning and kickstart it first try? while listening to the carb suck midstoke as you boot her over after a quick carb tickle? and have you tried an old bsa or trumpy single..ever had a carb fire when she backfires or those brilliant pommy electrics fry your bum??
Hey OF, I missed that question, my 1200C has multi port sequential fuel injection and an electric starter, no kicker is available. When Harley first let some guys try out the fuel injected bikes the testers complained because the engines did not shake at idle like they're supposed to. Har;ey reprogrammed the FI and now they but only at idle, as soon as you start moving the shake disappears. I love it.
Hey OF, I missed that question, my 1200C has multi port sequential fuel injection and an electric starter, no kicker is available. When Harley first let some guys try out the fuel injected bikes the testers complained because the engines did not shake at idle like they're supposed to. Har;ey reprogrammed the FI and now they but only at idle, as soon as you start moving the shake disappears. I love it.
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Jim, I was supposed to test a 13x8 three bladed prop on amy Saito 1.00 for someone, so, here it is.
Engine====Saito 1.00 GK
Plug=====GloDevil 4C Special
Prop=====MasterAirscrew 13x8 three blade
Fuel=====WildCat 15%/18% all syn. Called 2/4 cycle fuel
Rpm/stock cast muffler==9,750
RPM/TurboHeader=====9.990
If memory serves I got the same difference when running a MA 14X8 K prop
Engine====Saito 1.00 GK
Plug=====GloDevil 4C Special
Prop=====MasterAirscrew 13x8 three blade
Fuel=====WildCat 15%/18% all syn. Called 2/4 cycle fuel
Rpm/stock cast muffler==9,750
RPM/TurboHeader=====9.990
If memory serves I got the same difference when running a MA 14X8 K prop
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G'day Saito lovers.
I have a range of Saito Singles from 30 to 120 and one 90R3 but I have no experience with the twins. I would like to get a twin to put in something like a Goldberg Cub. There seem to be two series of twins - the older (I am guessing) ones with two valve covers and the later ones like the 60T and the 90T with one cover.
I heard years ago that some of the older twins were not all that great with respect to their carbys. Also, some have the pistons moving in the same direction and others in opposed directions which I guess would be smoother.
Any comments? There is a 100T on a certain auction site at the moment and a shop near me has a discount on the 60T and the 90T.
Thanks Mike in Oz
G'day Saito lovers.
I have a range of Saito Singles from 30 to 120 and one 90R3 but I have no experience with the twins. I would like to get a twin to put in something like a Goldberg Cub. There seem to be two series of twins - the older (I am guessing) ones with two valve covers and the later ones like the 60T and the 90T with one cover.
I heard years ago that some of the older twins were not all that great with respect to their carbys. Also, some have the pistons moving in the same direction and others in opposed directions which I guess would be smoother.
Any comments? There is a 100T on a certain auction site at the moment and a shop near me has a discount on the 60T and the 90T.
Thanks Mike in Oz
Saito never made a 240 twin. It was a 270. Their first big one.
I ran an 80 on a Dave Platt YMF-3 Waco and it flew it very well. Ran a 14x6 top flite prop on it.
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Sounds like a nice ride dave,good luck with it.I was referring to the old days when half the excitement was getting it started and then the "will i get there??" kind of feeling.Exciting,but then that had it's drawbacks too
Did you test any three blade props on the 220? and how did the engine perform for you?
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Did you test any three blade props on the 220? and how did the engine perform for you?
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I got a question you guys may be able to answer for me..I got a used 180 from a guy here on rcu..It is not that old..he said maybe 2 gallons..There is no compression for some reason..any help would be great