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Old 11-29-2009, 11:34 PM
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I had a Saito 80 for about 10 yrs and it did much better with the 13 X 6 than it did with a 14 X 6. It was not a early high compression version.
Old 11-30-2009, 02:27 AM
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13x6 apc on my .80 also.
Old 11-30-2009, 12:01 PM
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It will be low on power if running too rich. The last time I ran mine, it was turning mid 9000s with an APC 15x8 on 15% fuel.
Old 12-02-2009, 11:11 PM
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A friend has a 90TS...
We were talking about it today...one cyl. runs richer than the other...(there is a noticable diff. in temp between the two cyls. as well...as one could expect )

Didn't I read in here somewhere about changing the valve lash slightly on just one cyl. to try and get a better balance? (fine tune just one cyl...different lash settings between the two cyls. )
Old 12-02-2009, 11:29 PM
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Open the valves on the hot cylinder and close the valves on the cold cylinder but remain within the .002" - .004"
Old 12-02-2009, 11:33 PM
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Thanks
Old 12-03-2009, 09:51 AM
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Does anyone have one of these fine collector's items yet?

Old 12-03-2009, 02:06 PM
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that is one ugly engine.....
Old 12-03-2009, 05:08 PM
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Has anyone used a pump on a Saito 450? I need to mount my fuel tank about a foot away from the firewall (under the CG) on my plane, and that could cause some fuel delivery issues.... wasn't sure if a Perry style or another wound be best.
Old 12-03-2009, 05:20 PM
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A Cline regulator would the best choice for a couple of reasons. You can put the tank anywhere you want and the engine performance will not change at all from full tank to empty.
Old 12-03-2009, 09:52 PM
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Club Saito now has a page on Facebook. come on over and join the party ! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=...d=213072305638
Old 12-03-2009, 10:28 PM
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'nuff said.. just ordered the Cline. Thanks.
Old 12-04-2009, 06:02 PM
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I finally got the 450 mounted in my Waco, and got enough electronics installed to get the motor started.

I have a Sullivan Dynatron, but it won't even think about turning this motor over... not even with a 24-volt battery attached. No worries, it's a little complicated to use an electric starter with a plane this big anyway. I did wear my arm out, cranking, choking, testing the onboard glow, and repeating the process over and over. It started backwards a few times, then finally, it kicked off and ran the right direction!

What a smooth running motor! I think once it gets broken in a little better and leaned out a lot more, it will run a lot better. Right now, even with the glow turned on, it's loading up and will die at just over half-throttle. I started at 5 turns out (according to the book), but I need to at least dial it in to where it will run throughout the throttle range.

Anyway, for the first day on the firewall, it was a good day! Can't wait to get this plane in the air for a few shakedown flights.
Old 12-04-2009, 07:40 PM
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Congrats on getting the engine to run. I've never used a starter on any of my multi-cylinder Saitos. All they need is a good prime and a good battery on the glow driver and they pop right off. Some like to be bump started by flipping backward against compression and others do better flipping forward.
Old 12-04-2009, 08:04 PM
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Yep, I noticed that flipping it backwards seemed to have better odds of getting it started in the right direction. I used to have a couple of old 82's, 125's, and YS 140 motors... just a quick it with the starter motor would get them going pretty quick.... but the multi-cylinder motors are a completely different story. the chicken stick worked wonders... still got all my fingers!
Old 12-06-2009, 10:15 PM
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      Does anyone know what kind of static thrust I can expect out of a saito 62? Ime thinking about buying one for mojo 40, needs to be good for 3d though. thanks!
Old 12-06-2009, 11:16 PM
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.82 would be a better choice. had one on a Twist 40.....excellent with a 13x4W APC
Old 12-06-2009, 11:21 PM
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I had an 82 on a twist 40 a few years ago too... probably the funnest plane I ever had!
Old 12-06-2009, 11:42 PM
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I have a 125 on a Twist 60 and it is a blast
Old 12-07-2009, 02:07 PM
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Most fun i ever had with my clothes on.....
Old 12-07-2009, 11:23 PM
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yep.. and when you're done, they just float in for a landing.

Back when I was learning to fly, I ran my .82 out of gas, and tried to get back to the runway (street) to land... I ran out of lift a little too soon, and the plane just dropped straight down, into the back of my friend's brand new Ford F150. It was obviously unplanned, but it was a perfect landing into the back of his truck. it landed on his bicycle in the truck bed, didn't scratch a thing!

Those were the days.

We found out just a short while later that this guy had pancreatic cancer, and he passed very quickly. Every time I see someone at our field with a plane like his, I think of him. Sad to see someone go so fast.
Old 12-08-2009, 06:57 PM
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Having now a 120 ABC in addition to the newer 180 I am getting interested in Saito history also. I found an ad in the Jan 1984 issue of RCM mag, and an article in the April 1986 issue of MAN. Copies are attached. The MAN article has the most information in one place that I have found. If anyone has more info, please add it to this thread or create a new one called Saito History (?)

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Old 12-09-2009, 09:35 AM
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Just curious....I got a NIB Golden Knight .82 the other day. It came in the black and gold box that says Hemi Head on it (not the newer white box) and also had the older style manual with it. Didn't the .82 come out in early 2004? I am trying to figure out how old this engine is. Physically, it is 100% the same as my 2008 .82. Any ideas??
Old 12-09-2009, 10:36 AM
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You are correct

If the engine didn't come from Horizon, it would be as you described in a Black/gold box
Old 12-10-2009, 07:03 AM
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Recently we were prevented from driving on to our flying field because the cars were damaging the field during the wet weather. As a result we had to walk our equipment to the area where we fly a distance of about a quarter mile. Attached is my first attempt at building a portable filed box designed to cary two planes and all the equipment that I need to fly. Anyone that has additional ideas?
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