Hobbsy

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Earl, what initial does that one have on the right mounting lug, Thanks, Dave

earlwb

Mine has a "N" stamped into the right mounting lug.

Steveibrc

Hello All
I have followed this thread for quite a while, and now find myself in serious need of the wisdom of this group.

I clocked a tree with my Saito Twin powered Super Sports Senior four months or so back..As Forest Gump would say, 'Stupid is as Stupid does'...The tore out firewall, destroyed wingtip, limb spearhole through the fusalage, busted formers, popped glue joints, ruined covering, and tore up rudder cables have been restored, leading and trailing edge roots all healed up and now this........HELP!!!!!! I just discovered that i severely wounded my nearly brand new (long hoarded away) Saito FA100T in the crash. Tonight, while reinstalling the engine, i discovered that the carburator mounting studs have snapped off the crankcase. (See photos) Sickening....Please guys help me come up with some way around this! There looks to to me to be considerable 'meat' below the ends of the allen screws to drill and tap longer mounting screws with spacers to remount the carb(s). Machine work that is above my paygrade to accomplish. I am really in hopes someone can put me on the trail of a good man that get me past this showstopper.

Hate to think about trying to find a crankcase. That is, if there is one out there. I bolted the motor up and rushed it across the test stand after the crash. Fired right up and idled smooth as a kitten. Course it would die soon as i put the fuel to it. Wrote that off as post crash bad needle settings/possible trash in fuel lines since there was no apparent damage and it idled ok.. Thought no more while i went about rebuilding the airframe.
Thanks, Steve

w8ye

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Been there and done that.

New Crankcase $88

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...e-aa-SAI100T15

Rear bearing $19

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...00t-SAI100T22A

Front bearing $14

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...00t-SAI100T20A

earlwb

I would ditto what W8ye stated. Looks like the crankcase is on sale, so you probably want to get one right away before they sell them all out.
But if you wanted to, you could carefully clean off the oil and dirt from the two broken studs, crankcase and use some JB Weld epoxy to glue them back on with. You can build up a little dam to help contain the epoxy while it cures around the studs using masking tape or wax even. Then you reassemble the carb on the engine with the studs and let the epoxy cure real good for a couple of days. Anyway that would hold for quite a while until you feel like changing out the crankcase.

Steveibrc

Thanks for your insights! Called Horizon this morning, apparently that motor is still in production and they said that the crankcase is a current inventory item. 10 in stock and they said there were more avaliable so it appears i am safe to wait till after Christmas to deal with it. Reasonable on the price considering the piece. You think i might have flat spotted some bearings in the process? Will send the motor to Horizon and let them sort it out i guess. Thought about the JB weld thing, but in light of other possible internal injuries i guess it is best to send it in. You think?

n6iap

Even though I feel comfortable with me making the repairs I find when I send it to them it can cheaper. They can test and know what really needs repaired/replaced and you get a guarantee. Couple of years back I did an inadvertent landing using the right hand side of the aircraft instead of continuing the base leg of approach. It ripped out one of the 170R3 jugs and they fixed it in a couple of weeks for less than what I was going spend for the parts I was going to order. Motor still running fine in the new Super Stearman. BTW, only thing I salvaged on SS was rudder and landing gear.

My experience and opinion.

jimm

w8ye

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When you tear into a crankcase, you always put in new bearings

Steveibrc

It's boxed up and ready to kick out the door. Brand new motor. Frustrating, I haven't tore up and airframe/engine that bad in years. Oh well. As they say, if you can't stand a crash.you are in the wrong hobby.

earlwb

Yeah I can understand your thoughts about it. I have wanted to get a Saito 170 or 200 radial engine for a long time now. I have a big Gee Bee plane I want to put it in too. But after spending all that money to get the engine, I really hate to see what would happen if I had some sort of a failure and crashed it real good. So I have procrastinated on getting the radial engine.

w8ye

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I had a Saito 182Tdp twin given to me that had one flight on it. Guy crashed the plane, broke the engine, and sent it to Horizon for repair.

As usual, they sent it back to him saying the repairs needed were too expensive, so he gave the broken engine to me.

I repaired it for $375. It is a nice one. But I'm almost afraid to fly it.

Rudolph Hart

I'm lucky and have both the 182 in a taylorcraft and the 200 radial,which is yet to fly in an at6 texan.Other pilots really enjoy hearing the sound the 182 makes in flight.

Sharpeye22

dirtrod

W8ye,
I have to replace the bearings in one of my saito .65gk fs
where would u buy them from? Thanks ,
Ty[8D]

w8ye

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In recent times I have been buying my bearings at Horizon

But they are also availab le from RCBearings

And Boca Bearings

Kostas1

Anyone who owns a Saito FA-80 GK version;

I'd like to see some real life pictures!

Was the FA-80GK such a *best-seller* as the standard version;

earlwb

I used the GK version engines on some prototype ARF planes to make them look good. The planes color scheme matched the engines really well. But for my personal engines I tend to use the regular plain aluminum color engines. Unless I had a plane that the engine would look good on, I didn't see any reason to get the GK version. Especially if the engine is enclosed inside a cowl, it didn't make any sense to hide a GK engine like that. I do have a plain Saito .80 but no GK version.

w8ye

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I had one for about 12 years but have since sold it to one of BLW's friends.

Kostas1

I have the plain-silver version, but the GK sometimes looks neat...

rcflyboy01

how do you install Satio upgraded caruretor rebuild kit (sai150s144) they are some medal washers and spacers I have no idea where they go

w8ye

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Here are the parts



Where were the parts on your old carb?

rcflyboy01

MY old Carb didn't have these parts in it. I had a spring like the small Saito carbs have. I though upgrade rebuild kit was new and I don't know where these parts go.

dirtrod

W8ye,
I also used to just order from horizon,but also a lot of people
saying go to boca,just wasnt sure if the bearings are of the same
quality or not wondering why the prices are so different?Thanks for
your thoughts.
Ty

charlie1960

got mine from RCBearings

charlie1960

Here ya go Kostas, my FA80GK



btw, who makes pitts mufflers for Saitos?